Latest In Thinly-Veiled Evangelical Christian Obama Death Threats

Apparently, the latest thing in "Debasing The Institutions You Pretend To Hold Dear In Order To Suggest That President Barack Obama Should Be Murdered Without Actually Coming Right Out And Saying So" goes by a shorter name: Psalm 109:8.

And Psalm 109:8 is just straight up memetastic, appearing on bumper stickers and T-shirts, all of which carry the benign sounding message, "Pray For Obama." But, as Gawker's John Cook points out, this is just one more in a "long line of cheekily coded Obama death threats." The verse in question reads: "May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership." That leads fairly naturally into the Psalm 109:9, "May his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow." You know, in case you miss the point.

Rachel Maddow took up this issue last night, inviting Patience With God author and Huffington Post blogger Frank Schaeffer to explain whether or not the citation of this Biblical text "means something less threatening to people hearing this in a Biblical context."

SCHAEFFER: No. Actually, it means something more threatening. I think that the situation that I find genuinely frightening right now is that you have a ramping up of Biblical language, language from the anti-abortion movement for instance, death panels and this sort of thing, and what it's coalescing into is branding Obama as Hitler, as they have already called him. And something foreign to our shores, we're reminded of that, he's born in Kenya. As brown, as black, above all, as not us. He is Sarah Palin's "not a real American." But now, it turns out, he joins the ranks of the unjust kings of ancient Israel, unjust rulers to which all these Biblical allusions are directed who should be slaughtered, if not by God, then by just men. So there's a parallel here with Timothy McVeigh's t-shirt on the day of the Oklahoma City bombing. He said the tree of liberty had to be watered by the blood of tyrants. That quote, we saw at a meeting where Obama was present carried on a placard by someone with a loaded weapon.

What we're looking at right now is two things going on. We see the evangelical groups I talked about in my new book, Patience With God, enthralled by an apocalyptic vision that I go into in some detail there. They represent the millions of people who have turned the Left Behind series into best sellers. Most of them are not crazy, they're just deluded. But there is a crazy fringe to whom all these little messages that have been pouring out of Fox News, now on a bumper sticker, talking about doing away with Obama, asking God to kill him. Really, this is trolling for assassins. This is serious business.

It's un-American. It's unpatriotic. And it goes to show that the religious right, the Republican far right have coalesced into a group who truly want American revolution. If it turns out to be blood in the streets and death, so be it. It's not funny stuff anymore. They cannot be dismissed as just crazies on the fringe. It only takes one. You know, look at the Boston Globe article from a few weeks ago that says the threat level faced by the Secret Service has gone up 400%, higher than any other time in 52 years, for any president, Democrat or Republican. These are no jokes.

Schaeffer added, "Look, this is the American version of the Taliban... this is the Old Testament Biblical equivalent of calling for holy war."

5 comments:

J said... / Nov 18, 2009, 7:34:00 PM  

"It's un-American. It's unpatriotic. And it goes to show that the religious right, the Republican far right have coalesced into a group who truly want American revolution."

Gibberish. The left has gotten to a point where they are fighting some imaginary bully that doesn't exist in the form that they describe it as. It would be a total disaster for the right if Obama was assassinated. I want him there for a full term so that independents can see what you get when you elect the most left wing president in the history of this country. He's united conservatives, independents, libertarians, and conservative Democrats like no one else has.

It was the left making movies about presidents being assassinated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President

Did Frank Schaeffer say that "it takes one" when that movie came out? Because it takes one nut to watch a movie and try to bring those scenes to reality right?

"Schaeffer added, "Look, this is the American version of the Taliban... this is the Old Testament Biblical equivalent of calling for holy war."

The left HATES the right. The names "George W Bush" or "Sarah Palin" make the left's collective skin crawl a helluva lot more than "Khalid Sheik Mohammed". The right just thinks that the left is well meaning, but wrong on just about everything.

Codester said... / Nov 18, 2009, 8:22:00 PM  

The left isn't the ones ghoulishly selling the Psalm 109:8 bible verse (on teddy bears, no less) just to rail against.

The far right wingnuts calling for death (openly and veiled) could care less what you personally want to see occur in the way of a full term Presidency. Frank Schaeffer was not speaking about you as an individual.

Funny how you can always find a way to cover-up, justify, deny, equivocate, dodge or turn a blind eye to blatantly wrong behavior. But the mere fact that you even brought up the Bush film in an effort to justify... legitimizes Schaeffer's claim. As if the veiled meaning of that particular bible verse needed and further qualification as a dog whistle call to action.

I already know about the Bush movie. That was wrong. See how easy that is?
Say it with me.
"Wrrronnnng"

You'd have a lot more cred if you weren't consistently going for strict ideological rhetoric all the time just to be in opposition.

It's really not much of a stretch to see a natural correlation between religious extremists in either hemisphere... who call for death in the name of their religion.

Lastly, you understand as a source, user edited wiki is a joke, right? You've proven yourself and your assertions to me, to be a farce already, plenty of times. Just giving you a tip in any confrontations you may have with others when you post wiki as a reference.

And as I said before, I will not be going to any of your URLs that aren't linked.
You do know simple HTML coding, right?

Victor said... / Nov 18, 2009, 9:33:00 PM  

J, one thing about the movie Death Of A President is that it was produced not by "the left," but by a British company. It originally premiered in Toronto.

Another point is that the movie in no way advocated for the killing of a President, unlike the imprecatory prayer of Psalm 109:8.

Imagine the reaction from the right (and the left, for that matter) if the infamous Reverend Wright were to have been Youtubed praying for the Lord to kill President Bush. That's why using Psalm 109:8 in this context is wrong on so many levels.

J said... / Nov 18, 2009, 11:35:00 PM  

"The left isn't"

That's "aren't". Somebody should've gotten hit with the ruler a little more as a child!

"I already know about the Bush movie. That was wrong. See how easy that is?
Say it with me.
"Wrrronnnng"


LOL, good. But how many Democratic politicians or major pundits denounced the movie? That's the thing, I tend to look for the leaders, the prominent, and the elite of a movement to come out and condemn things. If this story about PSALM 109 catches the ear of just about any conservative talk show host, national review, the weekly standard, Fox, or any mainstream conservative publication, I can pretty much GUARANTEE condemnation of it. Every one of the aforementioned media outlets condemned stuff like the 'Birther' movement long before lefties tried to exploit that for political gain and paint the entire right as a bunch of kooks. The problem is, it's a pretty small story; we're talking about bumper stickers that say "Pray for Obama" and you have to open up a Bible to know exactly what they mean.

"You'd have a lot more cred if you weren't consistently going for strict ideological rhetoric all the time just to be in opposition."

I'm here strictly for shits and giggles. I'm not a pundit, blogger, or anything. I'm consistently right, and don't need any "cred" from you.

"Lastly, you understand as a source, user edited wiki is a joke, right? You've proven yourself and your assertions to me, to be a farce already, plenty of times. Just giving you a tip in any confrontations you may have with others when you post wiki as a reference.

And as I said before, I will not be going to any of your URLs that aren't linked.
You do know simple HTML coding, right?"


The usual Cody diversion, pick on stuff that's insignificant. I was writing fast, so I neglected a wikipedia link of a movie you already know about. Big whoop.

It's really not much of a stretch to see a natural correlation between religious extremists in either hemisphere... who call for death in the name of their religion.

It's a stretch when people accuse the Christian right of being the moral equivalent of Islamic Extremists. A nut bag Christian who blows stuff up in America happens once every ten years. A nut bag Islamist who blows stuff up in the Middle East happens once every ten days or so. And Christian women aren't stoned anymore.

Codester said... / Nov 19, 2009, 4:43:00 AM  

"The left" is a singular noun. Not a plural, dumbass. Same as saying the "The left is not".
"The left are not" is in in no way proper. Do not presume to correct my English usage and grammar based on your elementary "doesn't sound right" methods. And talking about "picking up on the insignificant"... *eyeroll*

I speak about the right as a group, so you speak from an individual standpoint and say...
"Yes, but *I* would prefer to see a full term."

Then I personally denounce your Bush film example as improper, and you say... yeah, but "the left" did not. Make up your fuckin' mind.

Consistently right? No. Not right, just obstinate.
And in no way ever "consistent".

Further, do you realize how stupid you sound basing your parameters for "religious extremists" on number of occurrences?

If you pervert your religious teachings to provide for offensive death of another person EVEN ONCE... you have crossed over that line. See how this works? Nobody is saying it's the "entire Christian right" or the entire Islamic faith. Just the nutbags (hence the term extremist) within each subset. You think the backwoods banjo/nose pickers are beyond looking up a bible verse they saw on a bumper sticker, if they don't know it by heart already?

I can't believe I have to explain the very basics of any given subject, just to eventually get to a discussion of the heart of the matter. Your over-generalizations (plural noun) aren't worth it. Start debating on a higher plane or I'll quickly lose interest in this thread like so many of your other ridiculous assertions before.

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